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Post by NightcorePanda » December 10th, 2014, 2:04 pm

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Post by Zurd » December 10th, 2014, 3:05 pm

Hi, please read

Nightcore definition
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/nightcore
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... f=17&t=930

Why other genre of music should not be call Nightcore
nightcoreuniverse.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4939&p=26479
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... 882#p15882
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Post by NightcorePanda » December 10th, 2014, 3:39 pm

Your opion this is nightcore to me
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Post by NightcorePanda » December 10th, 2014, 3:41 pm

Its trance as well
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Post by rsslayersr » December 10th, 2014, 3:44 pm

I'm at the moment not able to watch that video, but I fully trust Zurd his view.

It is against posting regulations and the rules of this Forum to post videos as nightcore if they are in fact not.
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... =11&t=1349
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Post by NightcorePanda » December 10th, 2014, 3:44 pm

Oh ok so ban me then
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Post by W0und » December 10th, 2014, 3:46 pm

Lol no need for ban, Zurd is just trying to explain that this is no Nightcore :3 O-o ^^
I dont hate fake nightcorers, I just dislike them.
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Post by NightcorePanda » December 10th, 2014, 3:47 pm

Then what is it?
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Post by emilemil1 » December 10th, 2014, 3:51 pm

A sped up song.
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Post by NightcorePanda » December 10th, 2014, 3:52 pm

Oh really sherlock oh gosh didnt know
Mayde the genere?
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Post by rsslayersr » December 10th, 2014, 3:53 pm

A reminder that you probably will not get anywhere on this forum with posting such speed edits. The only speed edits we all like on this forum, are the ones that sound close like the original Nightcore group.
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Post by NightcorePanda » December 10th, 2014, 3:53 pm

Guess I wont get far
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Post by NightcorePanda » December 10th, 2014, 3:54 pm

But most of you's get your nightcore song speed up add some pitch and wahala
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Post by rsslayersr » December 10th, 2014, 3:57 pm

This kind of speed edit hasn't developed into a genre for as far as I know. Neither has Nightcore, to be honest.
You should try to find some songs that do sound like how the originals feel. We wouldn't mind another good uploader on here.
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Post by NightcorePanda » December 10th, 2014, 3:58 pm

So your saying basically
1. Get a "Proper Nightcore Song"
2. Increase Pitch more
3. Dont increase the speed by 2 mch ?
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Post by emilemil1 » December 10th, 2014, 4:01 pm

Speed = Tempo + Pitch. Always increase the two by an equal amount or you will get smearing. For most genres you want an end result with a BPM of 165-185, which is roughly in line with the BPM of the original Nightcore tracks.
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Post by Zurd » December 10th, 2014, 4:01 pm

please don't feed this thread, if I'd be a mod I would have lock it already :)

Panda: we have nothing against speed edits, we like them but this forum is just not the proper place for it
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Post by NightcorePanda » December 10th, 2014, 4:02 pm

Link me a tutorial i use audicaty but im willing to download a diffrent program
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Post by rsslayersr » December 10th, 2014, 4:03 pm

There is a lot of miscommunication going on here.

We're saying (following what zurd said) we don't really like speed edits on this forum from genres that don't work well with the method to change those songs into Nightcore.
You are posting a video that isn't Nightcore, and we would much appreciate it if you posted real Nightcore here.

With this I'm done too. Let's not get all hyped about the mini-modding now xD
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Post by AznXstyle » December 11th, 2014, 12:13 pm

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Post by NightcorePanda » December 11th, 2014, 12:24 pm

Any other place's to spam?
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Post by AznXstyle » December 11th, 2014, 9:01 pm

Reddit.
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Post by Watch4FallingRock » December 12th, 2014, 3:19 am

I actually enjoyed your nightcore OP. I don't see why people get worked up on this sometimes. Is it really necessary?

I mean, if you don't like it that's fine. Listen to something you do like then. Why is that so hard to do?

And the disrespect thing...h-how? I've encountered a lot of "fake nightcore" uploaders who have heard of the original group. People say that these "fake nightcores" disrespect the Nightcore group. By that logic, is music by Fall Out Boy and Green Day considered "fake rock" because they sound nothing like Elvis Presley? Are FOB and Green Day disrespecting the rock genre/the founding fathers of rock?

No one says that Fall Out Boy or Green Day are fake rock producers, nor do they say that they are disrespecting the founders of rock. So why do we say that channels like NightcoreReality, CUTLoveRx, kikki123451, Jmac1000000, The49ersOwn, NighTcoreFC, SweetYoko22, and LadyoftheNightcore have "fake nightcore"?
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Post by rsslayersr » December 12th, 2014, 6:18 am

emilemil1 wrote:
If a house or pop nightcore sounds like a song made by the original group, I don't see why it can't be nightcore.
That's basically the view today. It's no longer a clear cut "is this Nightcore, yes or no?", but rather a "how close to Nightcore is this?".

So then who decides whether something can be given the Nightcore tag? Well... no one, since we all have a different idea of what sounds like the originals and what doesn't. All you really have to do is ask yourself if you personally think that it sounds like Nightcore, and if it does, then it's Nightcore. As long as you have that mindset you're (at least in my opinion) doing everything right. What's wrong is if you don't think it sounds like the original Nightcore tracks, but still tag it as Nightcore simply because it's sped up.
I think this answers this question too.

I believe it would be disrespecting if Green Day and Fall Out Boy called their music 'classical' towards the old composers, and that they would be making 'fake classical' music. Nightcore isn't supposed to be evolving in such an extreme way.

There is a huge difference between sped up rock and rap music next to sped up dance music. Sped up dance and techno and the likes are called Nightcore because they come close to the Happy Hardcore feel they provide. We coined this fenomenon Nightcore, because the group Nightcore did the exact same.
If you label things as Nightcore while they don't even come close to that, then that's a bit sad for our community, which tries to hold on to the definition. If you label them as Nightcore while you know what Nightcore actually means, you're deliberately corrupting, and that is disrespectful.

We here need to distinguish nightcore and sped up music from other genres, because that is the filter we have placed here.
Watch4FallingRock wrote:I mean, if you don't like it that's fine. Listen to something you do like then. Why is that so hard to do?
If you're posting here, you're asking for feedback. We are on a forum, a place of discussion. I do agree that discussion doesn't have to fire up like this, but I should be able to listen to Nightcore, expect Nightcore and explain my disappointment when I didn't get Nightcore through my headset.

NightcorePanda was adjusting to the sound we support on here, and indeed, AznXstyle missed that conversation on the chat and made things worse here.
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Post by Watch4FallingRock » December 12th, 2014, 2:58 pm

But when you look through the user uploads section, there's plenty of "fake nightcore" that was posted back in 2010 and 2011? Was it not a problem back then?
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Post by rsslayersr » December 12th, 2014, 3:11 pm

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultur ... ore#misuse

This suggests that all that sped up music became really popular in 2011 and 2012. The aftermath of this was a very inactive NightcoreUniverse Forum.

A single little cut in the finger can be no problem at all. Left untreated an infection can start. A single scratch on a mobile phone screen doesn't make the screen unreadable, but after a while it may spread and everything becomes blurry.

The start of a problem doesn't have to be recognized as a problem in it's early stage, but the result may be serious. I believe that this is the case in your example.
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Post by emilemil1 » December 12th, 2014, 3:14 pm

From what I can see, the fakes were as disliked then as they are now, if not more so.
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Post by epicolizard » December 12th, 2014, 7:05 pm

It honestly makes me mad when people come on the forums not knowing what Nightcore is and once it's explained to them they try to argue saying that WE have it all wrong. The reason the majority of us are here is because we actually enjoy and respect the original Nightcore and want to continue the legacy and not put up with people who disrespect the name by making a sped up version of a Green Day song claiming it's Nightcore. If you want to speed up anything but trance, techno, or Eurodance that's fine with me but don't call it Nightcore and certainly do not come on our forums and argue with us about the meaning of Nightcore.
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Post by rsslayersr » December 12th, 2014, 7:09 pm

http://nightcoreuniverse.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1316

This topic should be used for further discussion.
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