Be kind please... 1st try

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Be kind please... 1st try

Post by Dynial » April 4th, 2016, 9:03 am

I have never made/uploaded a nightcore song or video.

This is my first try. I genuinely want feedback from people who like the same type of music as me.

This is my first try... = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeZ7TUBT4jA

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

Post by emilemil1 » April 4th, 2016, 12:28 pm

Feedbackz

Video:
The text FX is a little much, feels almost like a demo for transition presets :P I think it would be better if it was a little less in your face, more toned down. Also, you might want to try some color/transparency/shadows for the text, since pure white feels very out of place together with the dark image.

Audio:
The Nightcore itself seems to be done well, but the audio quality of the video is pretty poor. I'm fairly sure that your render settings for audio are off, they should be set to 44.1 kHz with the bit rate as close to 320 kbps as possible.

Also, the song ends very abruptly, sounds like it's just been cut off. What's up with that?

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You want to include the full song info somewhere, which is typically done in the form: "George Acosta feat. Truth - Mellodrama (Gareth Emery Remix)"

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

Post by Dynial » April 5th, 2016, 12:20 pm

I will revise. Tried to use text animation to communicate emotion.. don't claim to be an expert lol.==

Audio was ended to keep with most nightcores I appreciate which are 2:30-4:00. Original song was over 6. I will revise with a proper outro.

TY :D

Anything else anybody can think of; I will try to learn...

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

Post by emilemil1 » April 5th, 2016, 1:11 pm

Animating the text can be nice, but try to just use a few effects, and make those look really good. It gets messy otherwise.

If you want to end the song quicker, the easy way is to find a good place to do a fade out, that's at least less abrupt than a sudden cutoff.

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

Post by Tranceformer » April 5th, 2016, 8:19 pm

First I really like how you edited the Track to Nightcore. ^^
I am glad to see someone else editing trance Tracks. x3
But now some tips:
What emile said the video has an overload with text and animation it flashes too much. a bit more decent would be better.
I am fine with the audio quality, I think normal people who don't go deeper in music editing or or which don't play instruments wouldn't even recognize the difference between 48 kHz and 44.1 kHz.
The way you editet the audio file is good too. You got the way perfectly between tempo and pitch for this track.
But I also have to say you should better watch out that the audio isn't cut like in the end of the video.
my reactrion was like this when I recognized this:
"Wah! Where the hell is the music going!" *looket on the YT-page --> end of the video and the track was cut.
but this is something what can be fixed easily.

Yeah this was all from me but another thing in the end:
It really takes very long to get popular on youtube, if you Upload high quality videos, and if you don't want to go on the ecchi track. But if you wan't some support ask here in the community. Most of the people here will help you. The chat is the best way to star something and then make a thread.

I hope you will stay with us and I wish you very good luck for your channel.
I have subbed and I will stay tuned. ^^

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

Post by emilemil1 » April 5th, 2016, 9:05 pm

The problem with setting a 48 kHz bitrate when the file is 44.1 is that YouTube does some strange things to the file when that happens. You lose all frequencies above 15kHz, they just get chopped off (normally it goes up to 22 kHz). It's not something you notice unless you've learned to listen for it (since most people are used to music on YouTube sounding pretty bad), but if you were to compare the two side by side, it's obvious that the one with proper settings sounds much better and clearer.

Anyway, it's a simple fix that takes like 10 seconds to do, so it's worth it :)

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

Post by Dynial » April 6th, 2016, 4:19 am

Thank you both for amazing feedback. I am reworking it. Thank you for helping me learn :D

I tend to be a bit of an audiophile so most things make for myself are 48. Thank you for telling me it causes issues. I'm re-rendering it.

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

Post by emilemil1 » April 8th, 2016, 8:04 am

I believe 48 won't be "corrupted" IF your audio file is in 48 as well. So basically you let the sample rate of the nightcored track dictate what's used through the rest of the process. Though YT will compress it to 44.1 either way once you upload, so there's not much point to going higher :P

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

Post by Dynial » April 9th, 2016, 7:47 am

I have been reworking text and audio. I personally love this song and want to do it justice nightcore as I've fallen in love with the genre.

I greatly appreciate the advice! <3 you all!

I have to work with pre-rendered files when editing... is very slow ><... my laptop takes a bit to complete ><

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

Post by Dynial » April 12th, 2016, 2:25 am

I'm rendering a more complete version... I hate to go over 4m... but based on feedback... I also tried to subdue animations and still have them convey emotions. My little lappy is taking a bit to render it :/

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

Post by Zurd » April 12th, 2016, 4:28 am

A bit too trancy and slow for what I like to put on www.di.fm/nightcore but its real good Nigthcore nonetheless :)

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

Post by Dynial » April 12th, 2016, 11:41 am

I guess I should post this here, ty for patience :D

This is my second attempt at a song. I hope I learned something from feedback :)

https://youtu.be/ePYWgS2JWnA

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

Post by Tranceformer » April 12th, 2016, 7:05 pm

First the ReWork of Melodrama went very well. I really like it. ^^
But now to your second track:
This track doesn't fills the criterias for Nightcore we use for our definition in our community.
We try to get close to the original Nightcore by the "DJ-Project Nightcore", who used trance tracks for their speed edits.
This is what we understand under Nightcore. In our definition Nightcore are Speed-Edits of Trance/Hands Up/Hardcore tracks and also some special tracks from special House Genres. But more important is that they sound like Happy Hardcore and close to the originals. here we have a happy (mostly female) voice and also a BPM from about 160-200.

In your edit you used a Pop? or Rock? (maybe it is Soul or something ...). And i also think that this umm special male voice doesn't sound pitched very pleasant to my ears.

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Re: Be kind please... 1st try

Post by emilemil1 » April 12th, 2016, 10:38 pm

I'll stick to the technicalities.

Text is better, but I still firmly believe that you are using way too many different effects, it gets messy and confusing when you use a new one for every single sentence, especially those that throw the text across the screen or make it shake violently. It also takes away from the impact such effects would have if you were to use a single more subtle one for most of the lyrics.

I can't check audio quality because it seems like your new uploads haven't finished processing yet (it's usually very slow for small channels).

Lastly, I like the image :)

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