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Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by HanonSilverleaf » June 16th, 2014, 5:38 am

I've been searching and have no results regarding the title Double Nightcore
Basically what I'm searching is a Nightcore video, Nightcored again, or in this case speed edited by another 25%
I tried doing one and it didn't really sounded that bad. So I've been wondering, is this legit?
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by Zurd » June 16th, 2014, 5:42 am

Why speed up the song 2 times by 25% each when you can just speed it up once for 50% ?

50% would be way too fast anyway, Nightcore is not ambient music :)

Basic definition of Nightcore is a EDM song sped up once which should be around 170 BPM, just a few top 220 BPM. If you make it any faster afterwards it will probably sounds way too fast to be enjoyable.
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by HanonSilverleaf » June 16th, 2014, 5:45 am

I see, so should my genre tag be SpeedEdited Nightcore?
Because I really want to upload this, it sounds pretty okay for a double.
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by Zurd » June 16th, 2014, 5:50 am

I have no problem calling this Nightcore as long as it's a EDM song and it fits the Nightcore genre.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/nightcore

Let's say someone nightcore a song and the end results is 160 BPM and you nightcore that song to 180 BPM, it would be the same thing as you taking the original song and nightcoring it to 180 BPM, thus making it your own remix.

I'm curious as to what BPM the resulting song is at.
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by HanonSilverleaf » June 16th, 2014, 5:52 am

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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by HanonSilverleaf » June 16th, 2014, 5:53 am

Abit chipmonk-ish
Its not a REAL Nightcore tho, I guess that's fine?
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by HanonSilverleaf » June 16th, 2014, 5:55 am

Wait I reviewed it a little and stuff
Is "Welcome to the club" considered Nightcore?
I can't really seem to understand these genres @_@
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by Zurd » June 16th, 2014, 6:01 am

I'm clocking it at 246 BPM lol but it doesn't as bad as I thought it would be.

There's no specific definition as to what's the maximum BPM a nightcore song should be. It's never been discussed before. The original Nightcore group was around 170 so real nightcore should be around this.

However like I said, we do have just a few songs at 220 BPM and we call it nightcore. I guess yours at 246 could also be called nightcore since I kind of enjoy listening to it.

p.s. yes welcome to the club is a EDM song, it's dance, it is considered nightcore and is a very popular nightcore song.
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by Zurd » June 16th, 2014, 6:02 am

I wouldn't really dance to it tho, I just tried and it's too fast :(
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by HanonSilverleaf » June 16th, 2014, 6:04 am

Btw the pinned Nightcore explanation didn't really explained it to me. Or should I say I can't understand much. I do know bits here and there though.
Also, how did you clock the BPM?
I'm planning on more.. erm.. Double Nightcores for awhile. So I wanna gather as much info as I can :P
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by HanonSilverleaf » June 16th, 2014, 6:05 am

And LOL dance till yer joints tear off? XD
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by Zurd » June 16th, 2014, 6:06 am

I calculated 41 beats in 10 seconds, just multiply by 6 and it gave me 246.

BPM detection in software is wrong in most cases, doing it manually is better.


More info here:
Nightcore definition
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/nightcore

Nightcoreuniverse.net posting regulations
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... =11&t=1349

What is Nightcore?
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... f=17&t=930

Why other genre of music should not be call Nightcore
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... 882#p15882
http://nightcoreuniverse.net/viewtopic. ... 465#p25465
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by HanonSilverleaf » June 16th, 2014, 6:07 am

How'd you calculate beats manually ._.
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by Zurd » June 16th, 2014, 6:09 am

start a timer and count the beats (the bass), do it when there's a lot of it cuz sometimes there's just vocals and no beats

for more accuracy do it for 30 seconds, I just did it for 10 seconds on yours, its going too fast for me to calculate properly if more than 10 seconds lol
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by HanonSilverleaf » June 16th, 2014, 6:12 am

Thanks for the links.
Understood a little more
Though I wouldn't say "Evolving"
More like running into another direction? Unsure.
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by HKO2006 » June 16th, 2014, 7:27 am

consider the common sped up % is 25%, so double nightcore would be 1.25*1.25=1.5625

One example of "double nightcore"
Provenzano DJ - Anima Libera (Feat. Emi)
140 BPM

Provenzano DJ - Anima Libera (Feat. Emi) (DJ Raaban Remix)
178.54 BPM sped up 27.52%, effectively a nightcore song already


From DJ Raaban Remix, we have two version of nightcore
uploaded in 2011, 196.38 BPM, sped up 10% from DJ Raaban Remix, 40% compare to the original

uploaded in 2009, 214.32 BPM, sped up 20% from DJ Raaban Remix, 53% compare to the original


For the sake of speeding up ever more
273.9 BPM


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Provenzano DJ - Anima Libera (Feat. Emi)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eroc6ad9qq0
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by rsslayersr » June 16th, 2014, 8:31 am

Zurd wrote:Why speed up the song 2 times by 25% each when you can just speed it up once for 50% ?.
This math is hurting my brain.
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by Zurd » June 16th, 2014, 8:32 am

rsslayersr wrote:
Zurd wrote:Why speed up the song 2 times by 25% each when you can just speed it up once for 50% ?.
This math is hurting my brain.
lol i know, just replace 50% by 56.25% instead :)
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by HanonSilverleaf » June 17th, 2014, 2:54 am

Hmm Double Nightcore is kinda fun LOL
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by HanonSilverleaf » June 17th, 2014, 2:59 am

Can I speed that up even moar.
Because I can LOL
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Re: Question! Double Nightcore!

Post by HKO2006 » June 17th, 2014, 3:03 am

Please make use of EDIT button, especially the two posts are posted in such short time.
Speed up even more made me think of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorcore and this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedcore.
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