Oil in Gulf wrote:Now I know we are both pissed at each other, but can I just ask one question: Does that mean that if I call something that's not nightcore "nightcore" can I get banned for that even though I haven't actually shared a video?
The policy doesn't even mention banning, did you read?
Personally, I think the original nightcore guys need to come in here to settle this once and for all.
Don't get your hopes up, they rarely do much more than lurk, but what we do have is their genre and artist information on their myspace page and we're going to make good use of that.
Oil in Gulf wrote: Look man, I know there are things that you, Maikel, Kirby, and Kitashi don't like and I understand. We all have things that piss us off. I get pissed off when I'm driving and someone cuts me off, but there's no need to pout and throw a tantrum about it.
So if you see a nightcored rock song on Youtube, stop, take a deep breath, and just don't watch the video and move on.
Like two days ago, two members of this forum made a guy to remove a kinda famous sped up rock labeled Nightcore from YouTube. If they had ignored the video, maybe it would be still up.
Gosh, before anyone posts in here and starts making a huge commotion about things we're not even saying... read the first post.
Kitashi wrote:First of all, I'm going to say that there's absolutely nothing wrong with you liking these kinds of music, and that everyone is entitled to their own music tastes no matter what.
Raver wrote:There are many reasons to us to start this new policy and I won't discuss anything with you since all the reasons are pretty well explained in Kitashi's post.
THIS.
I don't really go here anymore. If you wanna talk, catch me on Skype: maikel6311
i say its a sick thing that people try to speed up music and name it nightcore, the only nightcore i like is origional stuff, and remixes of techno, because thats what the first nightcore was made of! DONT YELL AT ME PLZ! well anyways i know that nightcore these days is a little corrupt but people who do this are just trying to get in on the action i say. i know everyone here now listens to REAL nightcore instead of that fake crap of, corse its there choise of what they do, thank you for listening :D torotorotorotoro!
Now....I don't know if my opinion around here is valid anymore, ghosting wherever and whenever, but really... Kitashi, cue applause to you for hitting the nail on the head.
All that needs to be said was said in his post. Hopefully the members that made this board...erm....for lack of a better term slightly off topic read this and either go with the flow or gtfo.
Ha. Rhyme. ANYWAYS.
Let it be known I didn't gtfo due to that but rather basic forum inactivity, the same 7 or 8 members online and nobody new to harass-I mean, talk to.
It looks like this may be more active now....so you may see more of me. possibly.
Man oh man did I cause a ruckus since the last time I was here... all the more to discuss, then! It's not like I should be doing something more important right now, right?
First of all, I believe it is wrong to be putting all the hate on the the staff members here since they were not the ones who brought this up to begin with. I will gladly take the blame for that. Even though you may not agree with them, the flaming and bashing on them for these policies really needs to stop. They have perfectly good intentions, they are not TRYING to hurt anyone, and they're only trying to work in the best interests of the forum.
Truth be told, this is the way people acted back then. They didn't have to have these regulations to restrict them into doing so; it all came NATURALLY. I'm pretty sure any oldie would agree that the forums (even the Nightcore community overall) were a better place to be back then than they are now. And to progress towards a community that is that way? No progress can ever be made without change.
jordesu wrote:Although all I'm trying to say is that people speeding up other genres of music was influenced from Nightcore's original idea.
Other genres of music being sped up is almost like an evolvement.
Although I can see where you're trying to go with that, you're heading backward.
I can see that you understand that all music diversifies, changes, and evolves with time. I noted very clearly in my first post that I find absolutely no problem in people speeding up other genres of music, and that that will inevitably happen. Music started out with flutes, harps, and clarinets, and later extended out to pianos, synthesizers, and guitars. People experimented with new instruments and methods of creating good sounds. They got influenced by already existing methods, which you noted in your post. All of this collectively makes up the billions and billions of songs our world has been blessed with today. Things we are grateful to have because music has diversified.
When you're listening to a song on the radio and your friend asks you what you're listening to, what do you tell them? You don't tell them that you're listening to music, are you? They already know that. What kind of music? There's country, there's rap, there's techno, there's pop, there's folk... all those genres are terms used to categorize music. If you have a song, you don't only call it "music." You call it by the genre it belongs to. What if all music was simply called music? That wouldn't be right, would it?
What if those terms didn't exist?
What if everyone who needed new songs to listen to went to YouTube and typed in "music"? Would they find what they'd be looking for?
No... they'd get a royal mess.
And it's funny that the exact same thing is happening to Nightcore right now. I mean, come on... you're telling me that there is absolutely nothing to differentiate between these two songs despite the fact that they obviously sound like two completely separate things?
I mean, they both supposedly fall under "Nightcore," so they must be the same thing, right? Rap and country both fall under "music," but everyone knows that they're not the same thing. What about Nightcore? How would people know?
The problem with calling every sped-up genre Nightcore is the same exact problem as calling every single song ever made "music" without any means of classification whatsoever.Sped up music CANNOT evolve if everyone continues to name it as the same exact thing. It's cluttered, it's messy, it's undiversified. People who decide to do so are not only inhibiting the growth of Nightcore, but also inhibiting the growth of music AS A WHOLE.
Furthermore, no one should ever expect Nightcore (in its current state) to gain acceptance in the commercial industry as a real music genre. Think about it, it's REAL silly. A genre in which the only relationship its songs have to each other is that they are sped up by a certain amount? That's far too broad of a genre to even consider. You can't even have a set BPM range for it, either; songs have different initial BPMs, and when you speed them up by a range allowing little variation (~25%) they will output with different BPMs, as well. No hope.
Kirby wrote:
Johannez691 wrote:And if Nightcore is Norwegian, then Maikel shouldn't really call his videos Nightcores either. No hard feelings.
You're saying that Maikel does not make Nightcore songs because he is Dutch and not Norwegian? So basically, only Norwegian people can make Nightcore songs?
Sorry... I had to bring this up again, just because of how stupid, arrogant, and disrespectful it is. Johannez, I'm surprised you haven't been banned for outright nationalistic bigotry.
thecad wrote:
Johannez691 wrote:Well, in that case I will only Nightcore in Techno/Trance from now on.
This is not really the case in my eyes. Maikel also got a very nice nightcore song of a "rock" song
Maikel:
Original:
From the looks of this, it seems like you haven't taken the time to listen to even a few seconds of the "original." If you did so, you would have found that they have virtually nothing in common aside from the lyrics... not even the vocalist, or melody.
That being said, I would like to ask people NOT to go sifting through all of Maikel's uploads trying to find one that possibly doesn't fit the Nightcore definition, and then post it here, pretending that every single argument made has since then been completely stripped of worth/merit because of it.
First of all, you'd just be making a fool out of yourself.
Second of all, it does absolutely nothing to change the fact that Maikel generally uploads real Nightcore on a weekly basis, and has done so for the past four years, building up a collection of hundreds.
Thirdly, the fact that a person may not abide to what they claim does not (in ANY case) make what they claim automatically false. By doing so, you are attacking a person's character instead their actual argument or position. You'd be a guilty offender of a little something called tu quoque. Logical fallacies are part of what I need to study for my college major, so believe me, I know.
Fourth, you'd be blatantly disregarding all the hard work and dedication Maikel has done for this community for so many years. Because this forum totally DOESN'T exist in the first place because of Maikel, does it? Like I totally didn't just write a huge portion about Maikel in my post that you just completely ignored? I'd even go as far as to say that fan-made Nightcore would have never sprung from its roots if Maikel were never there. HE was the one lifting us on his back, year after year after year. HE is a major reason why Nightcore is as extensive as it is now. So many starting Nightcore uploaders have left or changed since then, but he persisted.
And this is how grateful you are?
You're atrocious.
Oil In Gulf wrote:And about calling rock/rap/pop songs nightcore...well it's my right to call it whatever I want. It's no different then placing the yellow cross on a Mustang and calling it a Chevy. Will Ford b**** at me for doing so? No, they have other s*** to worry about. All this b****ing and fighting and trying to define nightcore is just unnecessary.
Before I start, I'm going to have to make it clear that if you're not in it to respect and honor the original Nightcore group, you don't belong on these forums. Got that?
If the original Nightcore group truly wanted people to speed up rock/rap/pop songs and have them be known as Nightcore, then PLEASE explain WHY the original Nightcore group CONTINUES to speed up techno/trance/dance songs to this day:
If their name is Nightcore and they're still doing that, then they obviously would like to stick to their happy hardcore/rave origins and be known as such. Anyone doing otherwise is being disrespectful of that fact.
The original Nightcore group can speed up ANY genre of music they do so please, but instead, they choose to continuously pick from those set genres and for good reason. They define Nightcore. They decide what it should be.
CONSIDER THIS:
Any techno/trance/dance song that is sped up can be called "Nightcore."
THAT IS UNDEBATABLE.
If you INSIST that ANY song, regardless of genre, can be sped up and be called "Nightcore"
then I INSIST that ANYtechno/trance/dance song,without modification, can be called "Nightcore."
That would mean that millions of songs are Nightcore songs, and every song EVER played at a dance music party/rave is a Nightcore song. It also means that artists such as S3RL, Manian, Italobrothers, Cascada, and Rob Mayth are actually Nightcore artists!WOW! Makes perfect sense, right?!
That, my friends, is the flaw in the partial logic many "Nightcore" uploaders out there withhold.
Oil In Gulf wrote:This isn't f***ing North Korea. Stop trying to control what the people on here can and can't like. Stop trying to stop people from expressing their opinions. Stop being so strict on what people can and can't share (unless it's not safe for work, then fine).
I have no idea how many times this has to be repeated throughout this thread (and seemingly throughout this ENTIRE forum, and the popular opinion of it) until people are finally able to get this simple concept through their heads.
I swear to God, if just ONE more person comes barging into here and claiming that anyone on these forums has ANYTHING against people liking or making sped up songs of other genres,I WILL GO CRAZY.
Take this scenerio, for instance.
Say there's a nice forum for producers and fans of hardstyle music to share and discuss hardstyle songs.
And I happen to be a moderator of it.
There's a new member on there. He's a nice guy, he's been into country music ever since he was little, and has recently gotten into writing and producing his own country songs.
He makes a thread on the forum asking people to check out the song he's just made and leave their feedback on it.
He creates the thread under a Hardstyle category forum.
He does this because he, somehow, was led to believe that country music was known under the name "hardstyle."
So, I'm the moderator. Something needs to be done about this. What do I decide to do? Do I tell the guy he should stop listening to country music? NO.
Do I tell the guy that he should stop liking country music? NO.
Do I tell the guy that he should stop producing country music? NO.
Do I tell the guy that he should forget about country artists he admires? NO. Do I tell the guy that he should probably be naming his country music as something different?YES.
I've seen that most (...or all) of the people coming to this forum to complain about the Nightcore regulations are severely blowing them out of proportions and making insanely inaccurate interpretations of them.
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU LIKING OR MAKING THESE SONGS.
THERE IS ONLY SOMETHING WRONG WITH WHAT YOU DECIDE TO CALL IT.
Mind you, the Nightcore regulations would only be "extreme" if the staff members wanted them to apply to EVERYONE. Instead, it applies to a small community forum averaging 5 active users at best, and that is hardly anything to ask. (Not to say there's anything wrong with extreme viewpoints, though. Merely having an unpopular opinion doesn't necessarily make you a douchebag. Unfortunately, the majority of YouTube denizens cannot understand that.)
For those who understood, thank you.
For those who didn't, hopefully I've fixed that.
Kitashi I like where this went and your first post. It's a bummer that there had to be some, how to put it.... hard headedness from some people I think it's obvious who they were. I have had a few friends who I am trying to get into nightcore so they can tolorate being in my car and my house lol. They came to me with a few of these uploaders like the one that you showed "Last Resort" ouch by the way haha. So we ended up arguing. All I had to do was show this thread to them and problem solved. Thank you for putting it simply and to the point! I've thought about throwing my two cents in for awhile but haven't then I see this and really no point ha just agree cause you said it all!
P.s. thanks to the ones making real nightcore for us listeners. It always cheers me up!
Well done again Kitachi!
All of the arguements were carefully done,even the examples,everything,i belive that none would have explained it much more better than you,hopefully thanks to your latest,along with your first post,we won't see any more of those disrespectfull freaks around here,i've got sick of it.
If a reputation system would have been made on this forum i'd give as much as i can.
Durzo wrote:P.s. thanks to the ones making real nightcore for us listeners. It always cheers me up!
+1,keep up the good work and ignore those fools that bring critics,it's incredible how everyone searches for an argue and a fight these days,it's like the whole world is falling apart.
I felt the need to elaborate (and in shorter terms) because someone will probably be asking later --
When a new song is produced, it is not simply known as "music." It is known as rap, techno, pop, folk.. whatever genre it should be classified as. On the other hand, when a song is sped up, it is simply known as "Nightcore" and there is no further classification given to it at all. Music has evolved because it has branched out into hundreds of different categories and genres over time. The argument being made here is that sped up music hasn't evolved because it has not done so; everyone continues to name it the same exact thing. This results in completely different songs being classified as being the same thing, and as noted, a "royal mess."
If anyone even hopes of Nightcore being accepted in the industry one day, it needs to be more organized .. that is, have clearer definitions. You can't just speed up any songs you want and keep throwing them into the same enormous pile.
The original Nightcore group chooses to ONLY speed up techno/trance/dance songs to this day, indicating that they would like to stick with their happy hardcore/rave origins.
If you're going to claim that half of a definition can be accepted as the truth, you're also claiming that the other half of it can be valid, too .. and that clearly doesn't make any sense. Just read the "CONSIDER THIS," I don't think anyone here could have put it any better than that.
Again, I cannot repeat this enough .. there is nothing any of us find wrong with people liking or making sped up songs of other genres. What we find wrong is what people decide to call those songs. If a country music producer called all their songs "hardstyle," they do not need to stop liking, listening, or producing country music .. they simply need to stop referring to their songs as "hardstyle" when it really is country music, or a subgenre of that.
Kestrel0907 wrote:we won't see any more of those disrespectfull freaks around here,i've got sick of it.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if we still do. People are coming in and out of here all the time. I would like to make it clear that people who don't agree with the policies are still welcome at these forums. People who are going to be excessively whiny and dramatizing about it, however, are not. (like the last person who posted in this thread, for instance .. they know who they are)
It's fine if you oppose the rules, as long as you aren't going to be outright rude about it. Also, if you're going to post here, please read everything we've said before and make a thorough attempt to understand us beforehand. It's extremely annoying to have to keep repeating ourselves over and over again.
After reading this, I have an honest question. I didn't plan to upload many, but IF I remix a song that isn't of one of the specified genres FIRST to be one of those specified genres, THEN turn my own remix into a Nightcore version, is that still wrong? I don't want to anger anyone and don't want anyone to feel insulted. I won't make ANY of these if it is going to irritate/offend/makesomeonewanttopunchababy.
Yes, I like an unholy combination of rock AND trance. If both could be in one song I would squeal with happiness.
Just your friendly neighborhood remixer-wannabe...
Oh no, you can still make these Nightcore's if you want, hell I did that too, there are many songs which can't be called true Nightcore, but still sound awesome as fuck, everyone has their own taste in music and we all respect that here ;)
But if you Nightcore said song, you can still upload it, but not promote it on this site, unless it's real trance/eurodance/techno/etc.... We just try to keep the true Nightcore in this community, but you can still like ''fake'' Nightcores, listen to them or create them...
Yakkety wrote:Oh no, you can still make these Nightcore's if you want, hell I did that too, there are many songs which can't be called true Nightcore, but still sound awesome as fuck, everyone has their own taste in music and we all respect that here ;)
But if you Nightcore said song, you can still upload it, but not promote it on this site, unless it's real trance/eurodance/techno/etc.... We just try to keep the true Nightcore in this community, but you can still like ''fake'' Nightcores, listen to them or create them...
I sort of understand. I will put any remix (or sped-up version of said remix) in a category that isn't called Nightcore. First I have to find some software for Windows though.
Thanks for the quick answer, and for not brutally murdering me.
Yes, I like an unholy combination of rock AND trance. If both could be in one song I would squeal with happiness.
Just your friendly neighborhood remixer-wannabe...
After reading all the replies, I see it like this:
Nightcore Universe and Youtube are two different websites with their own rules and definitions, just like America and Iran are two different countries with their own laws and customs.
On Nightcore Universe, nightcore is a techno/dance song sped up. On Youtube, nightcore is any song sped up, regardless of genre.
Similarly, the thumbs up hand gesture means "Good job!" in America, but in Iran, it means "Fuck you!" A thumbs up is taboo in Iran.
Thus, an American who travels to Iran and is constantly thumbing up, insisting that a thumbs up means "Good job!" is being disrespectful to the Iranian culture and to the local people (who have lived in Iran longer than the American and know more about their country).
In this case, we have people coming here from Youtube, who post their speed edits here and consider them nightcore. Speed edits labelled as nightcore are taboo on Nightcore Universe, just like a thumbs up in Iran.
Therefore, those who promote their speed edits here, saying that they can be considered nightcore are being disrespectful to the rules of Nightcore Universe (based on the ideals of the original Nightcore band) and to the local people (such as Maikel and Kestrel).
In conclusion, saying that a speed edit is nightcore on Nightcore Universe is like saying that a thumbs up means "Good job!" in Iran, but to a lesser extent?
Sorry if my post is hard to understand. It was late when I typed all this.
It doesn't seem like Kitashi comes around here anymore, but her posts were great reads.
I think what the protesters of these policies fail to understand is that this forum (and other forums in general) is not a democracy. It is a private entity run by a group of staff members who call all the shots. They have the right to enact any rule they see fit. They don't need everyone's say in the matter. There are no checks and balances. There's no such thing as a rule being unconstitutional.
Thus, protesting against the policies on the forum does nothing at all. Even if your protest post was the best thing you've ever written, with convincing arguments and facts, the staff have the right to reject it with a simple "No."
So, if you're a protester, you can either leave the forum (You are free to do so. There's no one stopping you.) or you can suck it up and accept the policies.
Sorry if my post sounds harsh, but I think some people could use a reality check on how this forum and other forums are run. I have the "this forum is not a democracy" principle in my mind because I've seen similar things posted by staff on other forums and websites in order to resolve arguments and conflicts.
Wow... I feel completely and utterly shattered by the fact that I disrespected Nightcore... I first heard nightcore to pop-ish songs and became in love with it that way, I never knew that the origins of Nightcore weren't intended to be for pop/rock songs... -__- This changes everything hahaha.
I'm aware that this thread is over a year old, but it does raise a significant issue in the nightcore scene, and I thought I'd give my input here.
I admit, I have connections and ties to some of these "bad nightcore" makers. I understand that these uploaders didn't set out to hurt anyone. Most of them aren't trying to be better than Maikel or to "out-nightcore" him. They just nightcore to reflect their tastes in music, and for fun, not for fame or fortune.
But the cold hard truth is that these uploads do hurt. Not physically, but mentally or emotionally. I was stricken by the posts in this thread made by the old, long time members. I could feel the grief that they felt seeing nightcore stray in the wrong direction.
I know that whatever I type here will most likely not change the ways of the bad nightcore guys on Youtube, but I felt like adding in my two cents.
I appreciate the time and effort done by the moderators and administrators on educating users on real nightcore. I understand that it can be frustrating, but I think it's definitely worth it in order to serve those who want nightcore to be what it was like back in the old days. I myself am still learning the ropes of real nightcore, and now I'm aware that the uploads my homies on Youtube make are not considered nightcore songs. (And yes, I'm aware that I can still like and listen to their music according to Kitashi and Yakkety.) So once again, I'd like to thank the moderators for taking time out of their lives in order to educate lost souls on what nightcore is and isn't.
Just a question. If one nightcores techno/dance songs that don't have any vocals, is that just as disrespectful as nightcoring pop, rap, etc.?
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Tennessee Titans wrote:Just a question. If one nightcores techno/dance songs that don't have any vocals, is that just as disrespectful as nightcoring pop, rap, etc.?
Postby I Am Arthur Clark » December 12th, 2013, 9:13 pm
Maikel631 wrote:
Maybe I should've said stuff about it long ago, though I kept thinking that it wouldn't reach people anyway. At this point in time most of the "community" is the sort of member of this community we don't want. Making a video about it won't help, because it wouldn't get viewed more than a few 1000 times, that's just not enough. Bulletins are useless, a topic here won't reach lots of people either.
But if Maikel had said something about it back then, do you think that would have helped address the bad nightcore situation before it got out of hand?
Also, after exploring the forums for a bit, I found lots of uploads from 2010 and 2011 that would not have fit with regulations if posted today. I'm sure you guys had a problem with those types of uploads back then, didn't you?
Kirby wrote:
It's fine if you oppose the rules, as long as you aren't going to be outright rude about it.
Can someone clarify what Kirby said?
I understand the "outright rude" part, but opposing the rules, yet being civil is still opposing the rules. It does seem contradictory.
I am looking for this:
''We mix techno/dance music into faster and more happier sounds for your listening pleasure!''
So what is this called?
Secondly, does this forum reject any entitled differently variation of nightcore?
For the sake of your Sanity, you may want to see every nightcore as ''nightcore'' in this post.
The genre, style and specifications that determine how I enjoy musics are highly inexistent.
But most of nightcore have this. Some really don't. Musics are moving towards what I want.
Meanwhile, there is no naming that can cover all my preferences. The best way to find songs that I like was searching nightcore, I dont like all nightcore songs. My wanted specifications are not limited to Trance/Techno or any type of music on instruments or vocals.
I have very few blacklists of Urban namings that I will always hate.
In other words, my appreciation of songs depends on the resulting combination of every detail inside the song instead of the details themselves.
I will await answers before I explain the other end of the line.
I know I've said something similar in another thread, but I felt the need to post in here as well since fake nightcore seems to be becoming an issue again.
I think a lot of Youtubers these days believe that nightcore is just a meme, and therefore they think they can nightcore any song they want to.
But in reality, nightcore is a distinct style/genre. I think what we're seeing on Youtube is nightcore devolving into just a meme. Surely, that's not the direction nightcore is supposed to go, isn't it? I think Kitashi may have already covered this, but the biggest problem with nightcoring any song is that nightcore disintegrates from a distinct style of music to simply a meme like Alvin and the Chipmunks.
Postby NU is like 4chan » March 26th, 2014, 6:35 pm
Sorry but...
The fact is that times have changed and nightcore has spread into other genres. Sometimes you just have to learn to let go of the past. What's done is done, and if people want to call their uploads nightcore, then they're going to call their uploads nightcore. It's their uploads. They decide the name and description for them.
The fact is that times have changed and nightcore has spread into other genres. Sometimes you just have to learn to let go of the past. What's done is done, and if people want to call their uploads nightcore, then they're going to call their uploads nightcore. It's their uploads. They decide the name and description for them.
You are correct, they have the right to name their stuff to whatever name they want but I think you need to check out my new nightcore. http://youtu.be/3EkYWkF7C_M
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Well, I was just browsing Youtube and kept seeing speed ups of new songs such as Dark Horse by Katy Perry or Happy by Pharrell Williams being labelled nightcore, and these uploads are getting on my nerves, so I wanted to get this off my chest by an attempt at a Broughy1322-style rant.
Hello everyone, and welcome to a little bit of a nightcore rant. Now I haven't posted much regarding nightcore because I haven't had anything else to talk about, but I kind of do now. After seeing so much fake nightcores of new songs (and the fake nightcore problem resurfacing a bit on NU), and watching a Youtuber named Broughy1322 (who's really good at game commentaries), I've kinda reached the point where I want to talk about it.
The thing I want to talk about today is the current state of the nightcore community, for lack of a better term. I would say people who make nightcore are generally divided into two halves: the uploaders who are pretty big who have thousands of subscribers. They research and respect the original Nightcore group, and make sure their uploads follow the guidelines set by the group as well as other rules of thumb set by the nightcore community. Everyone watches their uploads and has a ball. Then the other half, and I would say this is probably the vast majority of channels out there, that are successful with sped up music is hip hop and pop and speeding up the newest song on the radio, labeling them all as "nightcore" and things like that. It seems like those videos get loads of views, and it's a bit disappointing for those who want real, authentic nightcore like what the original group did.
I've been browsing through this thread and some threads in the user uploads section and noticed that some people were getting annoyed at the nightcore posting regulations, the actions of the moderators, and things like that (like on page 6 of this thread for example). Now if you actually sit down and think about why Nightcore Universe has regulations like these, it's because this misuse of the nightcore label disregards all the hard work put forth by the original Nightcore group and the first fan-made nightcore uploaders to establish the nightcore style of music. There's no other way of getting around it.
When a new user registers here and keeps posting his fake nightcore here, it pushes the staff's buttons and the staff have to deal with the user. They can't not do anything, otherwise that would be a slap in the face to the true nightcore fans, but if people weren't blindly applying the nightcore label to sped up non-techno music and starting arguments, there would be nothing wrong and the nightcore community would be perfect.
While it's most likely not the only factor in why the most prominent members in the nightcore community left the forum, I think that fake nightcore did play a role in their disappearance. I bet that if people would step back and do their research before attempting to nightcore, people like Maikel would be more likely to come here more frequently. Who knows? We could have much more things like song contests and NU game tournaments if the NU staff weren't constantly annoyed with the fights and arguments that came up.
I really want to say to these people is just stop. Just nightcore the way it's meant to be nightcored. If you don't like the procedure for nightcoring, don't nightcore. Don't look for ways to try to push for non-techno genres to be considered nightcore and make fake nightcore and expect the staff to stay on the forum and put up with this indefinitely. You can't have it both ways.
Well, this ends my rant. This was a bit of a challenge since there's not much to talk about regarding nightcore when you compare it to a video game like GTA. I'm fully aware that this rant will most likely not change anything, but it's something that I just wanted to get off my chest. Sorry if this post bothers anybody. It's just something where it's gotten to the point where I just want to write it all down.
When you get right down to it, NU is no different than, say, a Beatles forum or a Skrillex forum. Would a Beatles forum allow content that disrespects the Fab Four? I would think not.
Kirby wrote:Discussion of other sped-up genres is still allowed AS LONG AS this is not being labeled as Nightcore.
*Sees the Juncore thread in the other genres section get locked*
Sorry, but I'm kinda confused on the speed edit policy. I thought you can discuss/post speed edits as long as you gave them a different name. Is this still allowed? Or are speed edits not allowed regardless of name or label?
Can someone clarify this?
Thanks.
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Kirby wrote:Discussion of other sped-up genres is still allowed AS LONG AS this is not being labeled as Nightcore.
*Sees the Juncore thread in the other genres section get locked*
Sorry, but I'm kinda confused on the speed edit policy. I thought you can discuss/post speed edits as long as you gave them a different name. Is this still allowed? Or are speed edits not allowed regardless of name or label?
I don't really mind people being strict on what "Nightcore" should be to preserve it's true meaning :) Heck, I'm already making a new channel hoping to post what Nightcore's suppose to be with the help of you guys and this fantastic forum :3 I might be just adding on but people have different understanding of things and the factor is the source in which they learned/heard it from, so like basically if new people who's interested in Nightcore ends up here you'll end up with the majority uploading "true" Nightcore :) But then this is reality, a person will either become a individual and create something unique and original or become a follower and tread on what people already did and copy based of of them (I hope I'm making sense to you guys~)
Kirby wrote:Discussion of other sped-up genres is still allowed AS LONG AS this is not being labeled as Nightcore.
*Sees the Juncore thread in the other genres section get locked*
Sorry, but I'm kinda confused on the speed edit policy. I thought you can discuss/post speed edits as long as you gave them a different name. Is this still allowed? Or are speed edits not allowed regardless of name or label?
Can someone clarify this?
Thanks.
people are just haters
I am sorry you think it that way.
ReymartTaba wrote:... but people have different understanding of things and the factor is the source in which they learned/heard it from ...
True, hope we can slowly turn the tide by letting more people listen to the real ones first.
After seeing what's going on in the forum recently, I think we need some clearer regulations/policies/guidelines regarding speed edits. At this point in time, leaving it at "You are perfectly free to like/discuss sped up songs that do not conform to these policies AS LONG AS you are aware that such songs should not be considered Nightcore songs" is too vague. This probably gave users the impression that they could get away with giving their uploads a "nightcore-sounding" name of their own, for lack of a better term.
I think that first, we need a clear official written definition of a "speed edit" for use on Nightcore Universe.
And next, if we do decide to still allow discussion of sped up genres, we should have regulations on the names that people give these types of edits.
Just my two cents.
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