Something that seriously needs to be changed around here.
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Just a question. If one nightcores techno/dance songs that don't have any vocals, is that just as disrespectful as nightcoring pop, rap, etc.?
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No, but it's not exactly what we want either.Tennessee Titans wrote:Just a question. If one nightcores techno/dance songs that don't have any vocals, is that just as disrespectful as nightcoring pop, rap, etc.?
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But if Maikel had said something about it back then, do you think that would have helped address the bad nightcore situation before it got out of hand?Maikel631 wrote: Maybe I should've said stuff about it long ago, though I kept thinking that it wouldn't reach people anyway. At this point in time most of the "community" is the sort of member of this community we don't want. Making a video about it won't help, because it wouldn't get viewed more than a few 1000 times, that's just not enough. Bulletins are useless, a topic here won't reach lots of people either.
Also, after exploring the forums for a bit, I found lots of uploads from 2010 and 2011 that would not have fit with regulations if posted today. I'm sure you guys had a problem with those types of uploads back then, didn't you?
Can someone clarify what Kirby said?Kirby wrote: It's fine if you oppose the rules, as long as you aren't going to be outright rude about it.
I understand the "outright rude" part, but opposing the rules, yet being civil is still opposing the rules. It does seem contradictory.
Re: Something that seriously needs to be changed around here
I am looking for this:
''We mix techno/dance music into faster and more happier sounds for your listening pleasure!''
So what is this called?
Secondly, does this forum reject any entitled differently variation of nightcore?
For the sake of your Sanity, you may want to see every nightcore as ''nightcore'' in this post.
The genre, style and specifications that determine how I enjoy musics are highly inexistent.
But most of nightcore have this. Some really don't. Musics are moving towards what I want.
Meanwhile, there is no naming that can cover all my preferences. The best way to find songs that I like was searching nightcore, I dont like all nightcore songs. My wanted specifications are not limited to Trance/Techno or any type of music on instruments or vocals.
I have very few blacklists of Urban namings that I will always hate.
In other words, my appreciation of songs depends on the resulting combination of every detail inside the song instead of the details themselves.
I will await answers before I explain the other end of the line.
''We mix techno/dance music into faster and more happier sounds for your listening pleasure!''
So what is this called?
Secondly, does this forum reject any entitled differently variation of nightcore?
For the sake of your Sanity, you may want to see every nightcore as ''nightcore'' in this post.
The genre, style and specifications that determine how I enjoy musics are highly inexistent.
But most of nightcore have this. Some really don't. Musics are moving towards what I want.
Meanwhile, there is no naming that can cover all my preferences. The best way to find songs that I like was searching nightcore, I dont like all nightcore songs. My wanted specifications are not limited to Trance/Techno or any type of music on instruments or vocals.
I have very few blacklists of Urban namings that I will always hate.
In other words, my appreciation of songs depends on the resulting combination of every detail inside the song instead of the details themselves.
I will await answers before I explain the other end of the line.
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Wow I just read this whole thread, sorry for bumping this old thread but damn back then this place seemed pretty bad for all you guys :/
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Re: Something that seriously needs to be changed around here
I know I've said something similar in another thread, but I felt the need to post in here as well since fake nightcore seems to be becoming an issue again.
I think a lot of Youtubers these days believe that nightcore is just a meme, and therefore they think they can nightcore any song they want to.
But in reality, nightcore is a distinct style/genre. I think what we're seeing on Youtube is nightcore devolving into just a meme. Surely, that's not the direction nightcore is supposed to go, isn't it? I think Kitashi may have already covered this, but the biggest problem with nightcoring any song is that nightcore disintegrates from a distinct style of music to simply a meme like Alvin and the Chipmunks.
I think a lot of Youtubers these days believe that nightcore is just a meme, and therefore they think they can nightcore any song they want to.
But in reality, nightcore is a distinct style/genre. I think what we're seeing on Youtube is nightcore devolving into just a meme. Surely, that's not the direction nightcore is supposed to go, isn't it? I think Kitashi may have already covered this, but the biggest problem with nightcoring any song is that nightcore disintegrates from a distinct style of music to simply a meme like Alvin and the Chipmunks.
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Sorry but...
The fact is that times have changed and nightcore has spread into other genres. Sometimes you just have to learn to let go of the past. What's done is done, and if people want to call their uploads nightcore, then they're going to call their uploads nightcore. It's their uploads. They decide the name and description for them.
The fact is that times have changed and nightcore has spread into other genres. Sometimes you just have to learn to let go of the past. What's done is done, and if people want to call their uploads nightcore, then they're going to call their uploads nightcore. It's their uploads. They decide the name and description for them.
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You are correct, they have the right to name their stuff to whatever name they want but I think you need to check out my new nightcore.NU is like 4chan wrote:Sorry but...
The fact is that times have changed and nightcore has spread into other genres. Sometimes you just have to learn to let go of the past. What's done is done, and if people want to call their uploads nightcore, then they're going to call their uploads nightcore. It's their uploads. They decide the name and description for them.
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Well, I was just browsing Youtube and kept seeing speed ups of new songs such as Dark Horse by Katy Perry or Happy by Pharrell Williams being labelled nightcore, and these uploads are getting on my nerves, so I wanted to get this off my chest by an attempt at a Broughy1322-style rant.
Hello everyone, and welcome to a little bit of a nightcore rant. Now I haven't posted much regarding nightcore because I haven't had anything else to talk about, but I kind of do now. After seeing so much fake nightcores of new songs (and the fake nightcore problem resurfacing a bit on NU), and watching a Youtuber named Broughy1322 (who's really good at game commentaries), I've kinda reached the point where I want to talk about it.
The thing I want to talk about today is the current state of the nightcore community, for lack of a better term. I would say people who make nightcore are generally divided into two halves: the uploaders who are pretty big who have thousands of subscribers. They research and respect the original Nightcore group, and make sure their uploads follow the guidelines set by the group as well as other rules of thumb set by the nightcore community. Everyone watches their uploads and has a ball. Then the other half, and I would say this is probably the vast majority of channels out there, that are successful with sped up music is hip hop and pop and speeding up the newest song on the radio, labeling them all as "nightcore" and things like that. It seems like those videos get loads of views, and it's a bit disappointing for those who want real, authentic nightcore like what the original group did.
I've been browsing through this thread and some threads in the user uploads section and noticed that some people were getting annoyed at the nightcore posting regulations, the actions of the moderators, and things like that (like on page 6 of this thread for example). Now if you actually sit down and think about why Nightcore Universe has regulations like these, it's because this misuse of the nightcore label disregards all the hard work put forth by the original Nightcore group and the first fan-made nightcore uploaders to establish the nightcore style of music. There's no other way of getting around it.
When a new user registers here and keeps posting his fake nightcore here, it pushes the staff's buttons and the staff have to deal with the user. They can't not do anything, otherwise that would be a slap in the face to the true nightcore fans, but if people weren't blindly applying the nightcore label to sped up non-techno music and starting arguments, there would be nothing wrong and the nightcore community would be perfect.
While it's most likely not the only factor in why the most prominent members in the nightcore community left the forum, I think that fake nightcore did play a role in their disappearance. I bet that if people would step back and do their research before attempting to nightcore, people like Maikel would be more likely to come here more frequently. Who knows? We could have much more things like song contests and NU game tournaments if the NU staff weren't constantly annoyed with the fights and arguments that came up.
I really want to say to these people is just stop. Just nightcore the way it's meant to be nightcored. If you don't like the procedure for nightcoring, don't nightcore. Don't look for ways to try to push for non-techno genres to be considered nightcore and make fake nightcore and expect the staff to stay on the forum and put up with this indefinitely. You can't have it both ways.
Well, this ends my rant. This was a bit of a challenge since there's not much to talk about regarding nightcore when you compare it to a video game like GTA. I'm fully aware that this rant will most likely not change anything, but it's something that I just wanted to get off my chest. Sorry if this post bothers anybody. It's just something where it's gotten to the point where I just want to write it all down.
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Hello everyone, and welcome to a little bit of a nightcore rant. Now I haven't posted much regarding nightcore because I haven't had anything else to talk about, but I kind of do now. After seeing so much fake nightcores of new songs (and the fake nightcore problem resurfacing a bit on NU), and watching a Youtuber named Broughy1322 (who's really good at game commentaries), I've kinda reached the point where I want to talk about it.
The thing I want to talk about today is the current state of the nightcore community, for lack of a better term. I would say people who make nightcore are generally divided into two halves: the uploaders who are pretty big who have thousands of subscribers. They research and respect the original Nightcore group, and make sure their uploads follow the guidelines set by the group as well as other rules of thumb set by the nightcore community. Everyone watches their uploads and has a ball. Then the other half, and I would say this is probably the vast majority of channels out there, that are successful with sped up music is hip hop and pop and speeding up the newest song on the radio, labeling them all as "nightcore" and things like that. It seems like those videos get loads of views, and it's a bit disappointing for those who want real, authentic nightcore like what the original group did.
I've been browsing through this thread and some threads in the user uploads section and noticed that some people were getting annoyed at the nightcore posting regulations, the actions of the moderators, and things like that (like on page 6 of this thread for example). Now if you actually sit down and think about why Nightcore Universe has regulations like these, it's because this misuse of the nightcore label disregards all the hard work put forth by the original Nightcore group and the first fan-made nightcore uploaders to establish the nightcore style of music. There's no other way of getting around it.
When a new user registers here and keeps posting his fake nightcore here, it pushes the staff's buttons and the staff have to deal with the user. They can't not do anything, otherwise that would be a slap in the face to the true nightcore fans, but if people weren't blindly applying the nightcore label to sped up non-techno music and starting arguments, there would be nothing wrong and the nightcore community would be perfect.
While it's most likely not the only factor in why the most prominent members in the nightcore community left the forum, I think that fake nightcore did play a role in their disappearance. I bet that if people would step back and do their research before attempting to nightcore, people like Maikel would be more likely to come here more frequently. Who knows? We could have much more things like song contests and NU game tournaments if the NU staff weren't constantly annoyed with the fights and arguments that came up.
I really want to say to these people is just stop. Just nightcore the way it's meant to be nightcored. If you don't like the procedure for nightcoring, don't nightcore. Don't look for ways to try to push for non-techno genres to be considered nightcore and make fake nightcore and expect the staff to stay on the forum and put up with this indefinitely. You can't have it both ways.
Well, this ends my rant. This was a bit of a challenge since there's not much to talk about regarding nightcore when you compare it to a video game like GTA. I'm fully aware that this rant will most likely not change anything, but it's something that I just wanted to get off my chest. Sorry if this post bothers anybody. It's just something where it's gotten to the point where I just want to write it all down.
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Re: Something that seriously needs to be changed around here
When you get right down to it, NU is no different than, say, a Beatles forum or a Skrillex forum. Would a Beatles forum allow content that disrespects the Fab Four? I would think not.
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lol get outta here just stop i dont even with you people anymore
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Sorry, I don't quite understand what you're saying. Do you think you can clarify what you said in your post?Monster wrote:lol get outta here just stop i dont even with you people anymore
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I don't see why this is a problem.
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Re: Something that seriously needs to be changed around here
stop ressurecting old thread, its getting annoying, make nightcore instead
Re: Something that seriously needs to be changed around here
*Sees the Juncore thread in the other genres section get locked*Kirby wrote:Discussion of other sped-up genres is still allowed AS LONG AS this is not being labeled as Nightcore.
Sorry, but I'm kinda confused on the speed edit policy. I thought you can discuss/post speed edits as long as you gave them a different name. Is this still allowed? Or are speed edits not allowed regardless of name or label?
Can someone clarify this?
Thanks.
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people are just hatersNamahage wrote:*Sees the Juncore thread in the other genres section get locked*Kirby wrote:Discussion of other sped-up genres is still allowed AS LONG AS this is not being labeled as Nightcore.
Sorry, but I'm kinda confused on the speed edit policy. I thought you can discuss/post speed edits as long as you gave them a different name. Is this still allowed? Or are speed edits not allowed regardless of name or label?
Can someone clarify this?
Thanks.
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Re: Something that seriously needs to be changed around here
I don't really mind people being strict on what "Nightcore" should be to preserve it's true meaning :) Heck, I'm already making a new channel hoping to post what Nightcore's suppose to be with the help of you guys and this fantastic forum :3 I might be just adding on but people have different understanding of things and the factor is the source in which they learned/heard it from, so like basically if new people who's interested in Nightcore ends up here you'll end up with the majority uploading "true" Nightcore :) But then this is reality, a person will either become a individual and create something unique and original or become a follower and tread on what people already did and copy based of of them (I hope I'm making sense to you guys~)
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I am sorry you think it that way.Juncore wrote:people are just hatersNamahage wrote:*Sees the Juncore thread in the other genres section get locked*Kirby wrote:Discussion of other sped-up genres is still allowed AS LONG AS this is not being labeled as Nightcore.
Sorry, but I'm kinda confused on the speed edit policy. I thought you can discuss/post speed edits as long as you gave them a different name. Is this still allowed? Or are speed edits not allowed regardless of name or label?
Can someone clarify this?
Thanks.
True, hope we can slowly turn the tide by letting more people listen to the real ones first.ReymartTaba wrote:... but people have different understanding of things and the factor is the source in which they learned/heard it from ...
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After seeing what's going on in the forum recently, I think we need some clearer regulations/policies/guidelines regarding speed edits. At this point in time, leaving it at "You are perfectly free to like/discuss sped up songs that do not conform to these policies AS LONG AS you are aware that such songs should not be considered Nightcore songs" is too vague. This probably gave users the impression that they could get away with giving their uploads a "nightcore-sounding" name of their own, for lack of a better term.
I think that first, we need a clear official written definition of a "speed edit" for use on Nightcore Universe.
And next, if we do decide to still allow discussion of sped up genres, we should have regulations on the names that people give these types of edits.
Just my two cents.
I think that first, we need a clear official written definition of a "speed edit" for use on Nightcore Universe.
And next, if we do decide to still allow discussion of sped up genres, we should have regulations on the names that people give these types of edits.
Just my two cents.
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I also think that people on Youtube took the nightcore videos and tutorials circulating around for granted. Most of them probably didn't know how hard it was for the early uploaders to put together a nightcore tutorial, and to spread the nightcore genre. I agree with the second post, without their hard work, a lot of us still wouldn't know what nightcore is.